''Can't do without'' tools/machinery-greenhouse etc???

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Hi,

As you may be aware, I'm new to the world of veggie and fruit gardening and I'm wondering what tools/machinery etc should go on my 'must buy' list? Was thinking of going to a few car boots to pick up old tools etc-good idea or not? Moving into 1st house soon so won't have a lot of money to buy brand new things. Haven't even got a bed yet and I suppose that is slightly more urgent than a spade! hehe :D

Also, any advice about greenhouses? My garden will only be small but there are a couple of sheds in there so was thinking of taking one down and putting a greenhouse in its place. Anyone know of any good places to buy cheap but decent ones?

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Hi Catbud

Try www.freecycle.org.uk It's a nationwide group of people who swap stuff they no longer need. They also advertise for stuff they do want. This includes furniture and garden equipment. You have to register as a user.

As for tools: A good spade, shovel, rake and hoe is all you need to start with. You can think about other things later but the above stuff you'll use all the time.
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The tool that gets pulled out of my shed the most is a push hoe and a flat file.

Having a sharp how makes all the differance IMHO. It will cut the weeds up rather than push nthem around in the soil. For this reason you do not want stainless stell as it wont hold an edge very well. Cheap and cheerful id the way to do.

Other than that as has been said is a spade, rake and fork are ideal.

A trowl is also useful.

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Lizzie's advice on hand tools is spot on, except she forgets a good fork and good secatuers. I would emphasise good, DIY store own brand is a false economy, I bought my son a spade and the damm thing bends when you try and turn over soil.

Machinery.
Depending on how you do your vegging, what scale it is and what your personal health/fitness is like then machinery may be useful. I have back problems, so try to avoid manual digging, I still do some, but use rotovators. An american style spade, heart shaped blade and really long "mop" handle gives much better leverage and is back friendly.

Once you take account of how much time you have available is when machinery becomes an option for the fit and healthy.

I note your £ constraints, but patience and caution can allow you to pick up keenly priced kit when available.

Find a local mower repair and sales place. If they are any good they will take old kit as trade ins, or there may be a secondhand trader locally, there you can get quality kit that might look shabby, but is still sound. e.g. Hayter mowers have an aluminum deck (cover above the rotary blades) this lasts forever and a rusty engined hayter may well outlast a new mountfield. I have a hayterette that runs fine on its £10 replacement engine and is pushing thirty years old now.

A petrol engined strimmer, cheap one, is very worthwhile. I do all the mowing on our allotment site and I can edge the whole site's paths in an hour. At home all the lawn edges take less than five minutes. These things do not care how long the grass is or what it is up against, just be careful of plants and softer items or chicken wire. Under £100 new.


If you are within your own garden and the maximum cable run then electric kit is very useful, I believe Mantis do an electric version of their tiller. Strimmers, mowers etc are all available in electric forms. The only downsides are that the mowers are usually a bit useless, (blunt & painted, spring-loaded blades) and electrical safety issues.

Petrol rotary mower is always useful and can cope with a little damp grass. If it has a pickup bucket or bag it may clog on longer grass, also might struggle to eject grass without bag/bucket. I have a second hayter with roller and bucket which cost £175 second hand, current equivalent new is circa £600.

Petrol cylinder mower won't cope with long grass, but leaves nice stripes. Rotary with a roller and pickup is more versatile.

Petrol rotovators, I'm a heavy (in both senses) user of these. But they are expensive, heavy and need storage space, fuel servicing etc etc. However, you can dig a whole allotment plot in a few hours. New these are really expensive bits of kit. They are available from hire shops, but a couple of hire's can add up to buying a second hand one. Second hand there is a keen trade in these on e-bay. However watch for a while before bidding and be wary of "bargains".
Two types here, ones that bounce along on the digging rotors and ones that drive along on wheels with the rotors behind. Merry Tiller is the most common of the first type, seek advice from Richard or Clive on this forum on these, I have one that cost mother £60 in the seventies and is still going strong. Howard 350 is the best of the latter types, price/availability/age/spares-choice compromise that is. These are trading at prices around their name. As with all second-hand machinery be wary, find a friend who can help or check stuff before parting with your wonga.

Greenhouses.
Growbag style with plastic cover are OK, but the cover deteriorates very fast and the frame is steel so rusts.
Cheap "proper" ones are quite often flimsy and will have horticultural glass.
I would say try http://www.greenhousesdirect.co.uk/ for a good idea of costs and quality compromises and watch your local classified papers for "buyer to dismantle and remove" adverts, sometimes free, though never near me :evil: .

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Hi Peter

Yep, you're quite right. I should have said Good fork, spade etc.

I have one of the American heart shaped ones with the long handle and I would recommend getting one of these. Very easy to handle. The tools on sale in Aldi (if they have any left) are very good quality and about £8 per tool.
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there are a lot of free or cheap used greenhouses about, try the local free ads paper, cards in shops even bootsales. regarding hand tools carboots are a good source but be aware of what u can get in wilkinsons,supermarkets , diy stores, if its crap take the pieces back for a refund. having said that i use the own brand stuff, it dont hurt so much if the shed or the van get broken into, or the kids wander off with it and generally it does the job.
with powered tools use electric if possible, used small petrol engines can be a problem. if buying used try to get a good make that hasn't been worn out. my experience of cordless electric tools is that unless u are using them everyday the batteries will be flat , they need constant use and recharging to maintain their full performance.
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My experience of buying tools at car boots is to beware. They are cheap but often when you get them home you wonder why you bought them with wobbly heads splintery handles etc. I've also lost a few tools to two legged vermin will almost certainly be shifting their ill gotten gains at car boot sales. Having said that car boots can be a good place to find unusual tools that can be hard to track down.

I would stick to a few basic tools (spade, fork, hoe,rake, trowel) as good as you can afford (or can afford to lose if they are to be in an allotment shed). As time goes on you will find which tools you need for the type of growing you get into (for instance no point spending 50 quid on decent secateurs if you don't have any fruit, but if you do they make life a lot easier).
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