I have planted both my broad beans and Peas at the start of Oct in root trainers in the potting shed. They are now getting quite tall. Should I keep them in the root trainers over winter or do i need to plant them out now?
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Plant them out, I reckon.
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Hi Snip
If you say what variety they are you will get a better answer.
If you say what variety they are you will get a better answer.
Hi Snip,
It would be a very good idea to tell us in which part of the country you reside and then more accurate information would be forthcoming.
If you have planted varieties that are recommended for winter or autumn sowing then frost should not be a problem as they are hardy. Peas are surprisingly hardy.
JB.
It would be a very good idea to tell us in which part of the country you reside and then more accurate information would be forthcoming.
If you have planted varieties that are recommended for winter or autumn sowing then frost should not be a problem as they are hardy. Peas are surprisingly hardy.
JB.
JohnBoy, here's the extra info:
I live in the South Cotwolds on a side of the valley that gets no winter sun so when the ground freezes it generally stays frozen from Dec to Feb. I did plant autumn/winter sowing varieties of both. Aquadulce for the beans and the peas I cannot remember off the top of my head.
I live in the South Cotwolds on a side of the valley that gets no winter sun so when the ground freezes it generally stays frozen from Dec to Feb. I did plant autumn/winter sowing varieties of both. Aquadulce for the beans and the peas I cannot remember off the top of my head.
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Hi Snip,
I believe that if broad beans and peas are sown or planted out too early they are susceptible to a frosty snap as they will be too tall by the time it comes. If you plant yours out now they will be in warmish but cooling soil, so may not make too much growth. Have they been sown under cover? If so, then the change may make life more difficult for them if we get a hard frost. If they have been in root-trainers outside, so becoming accustomed to the lowering temperatures and cold nights, then so much the better.
You could try planting them out and protecting them when the weather turns really cold - with a cloche or fleece or some such.
Last year I sowed some broad beans in October to sacrifice as green manure. The ones I wanted to use for a crop were sown late Oct / Nov. Sod's Law operated to perfection on the latter, but I got a good crop from the former. We had a mild winter, of course.
I believe that if broad beans and peas are sown or planted out too early they are susceptible to a frosty snap as they will be too tall by the time it comes. If you plant yours out now they will be in warmish but cooling soil, so may not make too much growth. Have they been sown under cover? If so, then the change may make life more difficult for them if we get a hard frost. If they have been in root-trainers outside, so becoming accustomed to the lowering temperatures and cold nights, then so much the better.
You could try planting them out and protecting them when the weather turns really cold - with a cloche or fleece or some such.
Last year I sowed some broad beans in October to sacrifice as green manure. The ones I wanted to use for a crop were sown late Oct / Nov. Sod's Law operated to perfection on the latter, but I got a good crop from the former. We had a mild winter, of course.
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they are in root trainers in the potting shed. I could just move the outside until the weekend in ther root trainers and then plant. I do have fleece if need be to wrap them up...... I am guessing just around the roots is fine?
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they are in root trainers in the potting shed. I could just move the outside until the weekend in ther root trainers and then plant. I do have fleece if need be to wrap them up...... I am guessing just around the roots is fine?
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I planted out Broad beans in early October. They are now flowering. 
Hi Ron,
Suspect that you will have to resow. I doubt that the winter will kill your plants but they are unlikely to be sufficiently pollinated. It would be interesting to leave them where they are and note what actually happens.
JB.
Suspect that you will have to resow. I doubt that the winter will kill your plants but they are unlikely to be sufficiently pollinated. It would be interesting to leave them where they are and note what actually happens.
JB.
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Thanks for your reply, Johnboy. I intend to leave them to see what will happen, I have plenty more that I only planted out a week ago. I had thought about taking the flowers off and hoping they would flower again in spring, but curiosity has got the better of me.
I'll keep you posted.
I'll keep you posted.
Hi Ron,
I have tried in the past to grow autumn sown Broad Beans and they really do not like the weather that we get here. I am up at 500ft and get a very wet winter with quite an amount of snow which they seem to weather quite well but they used to die off from just about everything other than the cold.
With my Spring sown Broad Beans I always cut back to about 4 inches when I have picked them out and they regenerate and give me another small crop in the autumn which strangely is very welcome.
I am wondering if you let your present crop do what it has to do then cut a few back and see if they regenerate again in the Spring. This would be very interesting to know the result.
I think a great many people will be caught out by the extended Indian Summer this year.
Here there have been 6 frosts so far but I still had a small picking of Runner Beans this morning enough for Sunday lunch for 3 people from my experimental sowing the second week in July. I love experiments!
JB.
I have tried in the past to grow autumn sown Broad Beans and they really do not like the weather that we get here. I am up at 500ft and get a very wet winter with quite an amount of snow which they seem to weather quite well but they used to die off from just about everything other than the cold.
With my Spring sown Broad Beans I always cut back to about 4 inches when I have picked them out and they regenerate and give me another small crop in the autumn which strangely is very welcome.
I am wondering if you let your present crop do what it has to do then cut a few back and see if they regenerate again in the Spring. This would be very interesting to know the result.
I think a great many people will be caught out by the extended Indian Summer this year.
Here there have been 6 frosts so far but I still had a small picking of Runner Beans this morning enough for Sunday lunch for 3 people from my experimental sowing the second week in July. I love experiments!
JB.
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Johnboy wrote:Hi Ron,
I have tried in the past to grow autumn sown Broad Beans and they really do not like the weather that we get here. I am up at 500ft and get a very wet winter with quite an amount of snow which they seem to weather quite well but they used to die off from just about everything other than the cold.
With my Spring sown Broad Beans I always cut back to about 4 inches when I have picked them out and they regenerate and give me another small crop in the autumn which strangely is very welcome.
I am wondering if you let your present crop do what it has to do then cut a few back and see if they regenerate again in the Spring. This would be very interesting to know the result.
I think a great many people will be caught out by the extended Indian Summer this year.
Here there have been 6 frosts so far but I still had a small picking of Runner Beans this morning enough for Sunday lunch for 3 people from my experimental sowing the second week in July. I love experiments!
JB.
Hi Johnboy,
There are six plants in flower. I shall leave them to see if they produce any beans and in february cut back 3 of them. I've only been gardening for 3 years and am ready for an experiment.
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What encourages me about your correspondence, both of you, is that neither of you seem too concerned about the possibility of a really cold period killing the plants off. Maybe I am worrying about nothing. So, Snip, why not just go ahead and plant out [I see your answer to me was about a month ago, which shows how seldom i've visited the forum!] and, if necessary, protect with straw or fleece, as you suggest you might.
When I came to Bedford almost 40 years ago, they told me to regard the climate as North of England for the purposes of following instructions which differentiate betweebn north and south. My experience suggests that we can regard ourselves as South from May till about December, but it takes a lot longer to warm up after the winter. Sowing broad beans here in February, for example, has produced poor yields. I wonder whether Herbie and the Codger would agree.
When I came to Bedford almost 40 years ago, they told me to regard the climate as North of England for the purposes of following instructions which differentiate betweebn north and south. My experience suggests that we can regard ourselves as South from May till about December, but it takes a lot longer to warm up after the winter. Sowing broad beans here in February, for example, has produced poor yields. I wonder whether Herbie and the Codger would agree.
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