We have 28.5 plots
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Plot security?
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We have just suffered a spate of break ins over the last weekend. Both saturday and sunday we had intruders. On the saturday my parrafin heater was nicked along with half dozen eggs. Then on sunday they came back only to cut through the fences and robbed some gardens at the bottom of the site. One old boy has got nothing left now and is talking about jacking in he has been done 4 times since october.Whats even more galling is that we have pallisade fencing and 1 plotholder who constantly leaves the gate open cos he is too idle to get out of his car to lock up and the council tell me there is nothing they can do about it.
We have about 86 plots (if I remember rightly) so it's a fairly large site. We've had homeless people get in looking for somewhere dry to sleep. They're not so bad, most of them don't do any damage and tidy up after themselves which, in a way, is fair enough. A person can live with that. It's the idiots that are the problem.
I've offered to man a sub machine gun but i'm not allowed to by law apparently. It's ok for someones little darlings to break in, burn down sheds, smash all the glass in the greenhouses, thieve, defecate of shed floors and uproot peoples produce. It's not ok for us plotholders to ask for something to be done. I don't understand it at all. There must be a solution somewhere but what? People on the site have packed in because of the situation. They've got fed up with it.
I've offered to man a sub machine gun but i'm not allowed to by law apparently. It's ok for someones little darlings to break in, burn down sheds, smash all the glass in the greenhouses, thieve, defecate of shed floors and uproot peoples produce. It's not ok for us plotholders to ask for something to be done. I don't understand it at all. There must be a solution somewhere but what? People on the site have packed in because of the situation. They've got fed up with it.
Lots of love
Lizzie
Lizzie
Hi Lizzie
This was the point of my original post...Our Council has no money/funding in fact at the beginning of last years finacial year they were using this years allocations for projects. Our fencing has been ok'd as a 'Catagory two' priority.
What this means is that if all Catagory one projects are completed during a financial year and there are funds left over we are in with a chance depending on how high we are on the Catagory two list. The next year comes with another Catagory one list!
A point I made at a user group meeting was we would be forever on the Catagory two list and this was more or less implied as the correct scenario.
The only way we can get our fencing is to apply for grants BUT we need a committee with an appropriate Constitution, mission statements etc. I have all that in place but the perishers who share the site are just not interested.
Darren....We also have a couple of idiots who cannot be bothered to get out of their vehicles to lock the gates too. There must be a way of dealing with them...one idea that springs to mind is to approach the Council with a complaint quoting Health & Safety laws... Sounds daft I know but my approach would be. ... person leaves the gate open ...member of the public gains easy access and hurts themselves...HUGE claim against Council for not providing a 'safe working evironment'...surely the basic principle of the Health & Safety at Work Act 1974... just a thought.
Rant over...for the moment
This was the point of my original post...Our Council has no money/funding in fact at the beginning of last years finacial year they were using this years allocations for projects. Our fencing has been ok'd as a 'Catagory two' priority.
What this means is that if all Catagory one projects are completed during a financial year and there are funds left over we are in with a chance depending on how high we are on the Catagory two list. The next year comes with another Catagory one list!
A point I made at a user group meeting was we would be forever on the Catagory two list and this was more or less implied as the correct scenario.
The only way we can get our fencing is to apply for grants BUT we need a committee with an appropriate Constitution, mission statements etc. I have all that in place but the perishers who share the site are just not interested.
Darren....We also have a couple of idiots who cannot be bothered to get out of their vehicles to lock the gates too. There must be a way of dealing with them...one idea that springs to mind is to approach the Council with a complaint quoting Health & Safety laws... Sounds daft I know but my approach would be. ... person leaves the gate open ...member of the public gains easy access and hurts themselves...HUGE claim against Council for not providing a 'safe working evironment'...surely the basic principle of the Health & Safety at Work Act 1974... just a thought.
Rant over...for the moment
I am in my own little world, ...it's OK, ...they know me there!
You are making me feel very inferior! Our site only has seven plots, in fact, it's a piece of pasture land which is too steep to be economical for the farmer to use. The site was used as stock allotments during and just after the war and, after a period of complete neglect, was reopened as allotments about 20 years ago. It took us a year to double dig our plot and get rid of rubbish but since then we have been virtually self-supporting in veggies. Our only security concern is with the wildlife: rabbits, jackdaws. pigeons, partridges as well as lambs (who occasionally climb over the dry stone walls) and cows (who occasionally break through the dry stone walls)!
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Dear Monika, ours only has eleven plots so it's not that much bigger than your site, we too only get troubled by widlife, luckily we don't get the horror stories some of the other members have to put up with.
Kind Regards, Old Herbaceous.
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You could as a last resort get the Council to ban cars on the site. Shallot Man
Our gate padlock wont let you remove the key without locking it first, and with a £10 deposit the gate is always locked.
We are very lucky really, its a 160 plot site with about a dozen unlet, we are surrounded by houses on three sides and a school on the other so are very secure. I can leave stuff out and (so far) come back a week later and its still there.
We are very lucky really, its a 160 plot site with about a dozen unlet, we are surrounded by houses on three sides and a school on the other so are very secure. I can leave stuff out and (so far) come back a week later and its still there.
Ban Cars...do you want to start a riot? I like the thought though. 
Piglet....with our locks too you have to lock it to get the key out but these people lock it whilst its off and leave the lock hanging by its chain.
Piglet....with our locks too you have to lock it to get the key out but these people lock it whilst its off and leave the lock hanging by its chain.
I am in my own little world, ...it's OK, ...they know me there!