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This is one reason that I do my best to avoid products that contain palm oil, it is one of the main causes of environmenal destruction in forest areas.
I feel for this tribe cut from their roots.

http://news.mongabay.com/2011/0623-hance_penan.html

Hi NB,
Regretably this is nothing new and it has happened in this country many times. The water supplies to most of our cities have meant that people have been turfed off there farms and out of their homes to make dams to satisfy the needs of certainly Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester and many places in between the dam and the city. I live in Herefordshire but the pipelines to Birmingham run through my place and I draw my water from them some 55 miles away from the resevoir for Birmingham and
Lynn Briane in Mid-Wales is another example and Lynn Vyrynwy For Liverpool and Thirlmere in the Lake District for I believe Manchester.
I feel for the People but the world cannot stand still for these people and I am not being heartless. There is room where they live to remain in the
Rainforest should they so choose. I suspect that it is their choice to go for civilization and not stay in the rainforest.
JB.

Don't forget this sort of thimg is happening worldwide as an unforseen consequence of "be green" campaigns in the "developed" world because it produces ingredients for bio-fuels.

Now if worldwide population levels fell back to, say, those of 1811 we could be "green", but as long as we ignore the elephant in the room (too many humans) everything positive we try to do is likely to have a much larger negative outcome elsewhere.

It's like electric cars, pollution free?
My a***!
The pollution just comes out of the power station chimneys instead of the vehicle.

And, as always, I instance Capel Celyn, an indigenous Welsh community, removed to provide water for Liverpool.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capel_Celyn

I agree we need to limit population and bio fuels taking over forest areas are not the answer, but that is something we need to take individual responsibility for, that is one of the reasons I adopted a child in already here and in need of a home before having more of my own and why I gave up driving my own car.

Worth also mentioning Fudach nan Gàidheal, otherwise known as the Highland Clearances.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances