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Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:53 pm
by Piglet6
I'm using a spreadsheet to calculate money saved on veg, & money spent on seeds, containers, feed, etc.

I have a question:- if I purchase bags of compost (as I mostly grow in containers) using 'birthday/Christmas' money, do I record it on the spreadsheet as a cost.

I'm thinking 'NO', 'cos if the gifts had been ACTUAL bags of compost then I wouldn't be recording it. What do you guys reckon?

p.s. Can't wait for the weekend - going to stock up on compost & get sowing. Year 2 here I come!! :D

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:06 pm
by oldherbaceous
Evening Piglet6, i'm not very good at the paperwork side of gardening, but i suppose if you want the real costings, you should include the price of the compost, and if the figures don't look very good, take it off again. :wink:

Enjoy your second year. :)

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:27 pm
by WestHamRon
oldherbaceous wrote:Evening Piglet6, i'm not very good at the paperwork side of gardening, but i suppose if you want the real costings, you should include the price of the compost, and if the figures don't look very good, take it off again. :wink:

Enjoy your second year. :)

I think the treasury are looking for people of your calibre,OH. :lol:

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:47 pm
by oldherbaceous
I await the official looking envelope then, WestHamRon. :)

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:47 am
by Parsons Jack
oldherbaceous wrote:I await the official looking envelope then, WestHamRon. :)


Morning OH,

It will probably be marked HMRC, if they think that is how you worked out your tax return :lol:

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:28 am
by oldherbaceous
Funny you should say that, PJ. :)

Sorry for going off topic Piglet6, :oops: but i'm easily led. :)

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:43 am
by alan refail
Piglet6

Back on topic after OH's mind-wandering :wink:

My answer would be: definitely you do include the cost of the compost. After all you could have spent the money on something entirely garden-unrelated. And don't forget to add the fuel cost involved in going to get the compost :wink:

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:48 am
by Stephen
Like Alan I would account for the compost because then you will get a true reflection of the savings from growing your own.

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:44 am
by Tony Hague
I have long reconciled myself with accepting that veg growing is my hobby, not for financial savings. I doubt there are any savings, and if I cost it in a straight financial terms I really ought to cost my time, because I could be spending it doing more work I suppose. That would make my veg really rather expensive. On the other hand, as hobbies go it is pretty cheap - well, unless I have to cost in the greenhouse !

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:06 pm
by DiG
Like Tony, I grow vegetables as a hobby and not for the cost saving. The biggest benefit for me, apart from vegetables that are as fresh as they can possibly be, is that because I live 12 miles from the nearest market/supermarket, the savings on petrol are significant. Fortunately for me I have a local supplier for compost etc so the cost of getting supplies is not so high. Happily, i inherited the greenhouse and two polytunnels from the previous owner of the house so I don't have to factor in that cost either :)

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:46 pm
by PLUMPUDDING
If you factor in the cost of bought compost this year, you can see more of a saving next year if you just top it up with home made compost or a bit of fertilizer.

You can also make good savings by saving seeds, shallots and potatoes from this year's crops, to grow next year if you've room to grow a few extra.

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:54 pm
by Shallot Man
I think if we added all the costs plus labour, we would order from Harrods. Most of us do it as a hobby and the satisfaction of knowing what been sprayed or not on our crops, plus they don't come no fresher. :roll:

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:37 pm
by WestHamRon
Shallot Man wrote:I think if we added all the costs plus labour, we would order from Harrods. Most of us do it as a hobby and the satisfaction of knowing what been sprayed or not on our crops, plus they don't come no fresher. :roll:

Too true.

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:12 pm
by Tigger
I did the sums a few years ago and it's definitely cheaper to buy from those four letter supermarkets and my nearest Saturday street market. The difference is the enjoyment and the exercise. If I factored in gym membership and alternative hobbies or groups, the scales moved in the opposite direction, not least because I hate aerobics and weight lifting but don't mind lugging bags of compost or digging.

Re: Question re the Veg Savings/Outlay Spreadsheet

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:56 am
by Stephen
I completely agree that the allotment and garden are a hobby and therapy and exercise. Of course once we don't cost the time then there are savings to be made (although I would like to exclude the cost of tools too!)
The freshness, particularly of the leafy veg helps enormously too, there is something special about nipping into the garden, harvesting a few bits and eating them within minutes.