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The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:40 pm
by peter
Our council has a new boss and he has applied some logic to our cultivation levels and waiting list.
Namely some simple data logging, surveying and mathematics! :shock: :wink:
After surveying half the councils individual allotment plots (as opposed to sites) there are about 10% to 15% that can be deemed "not cultivated" and reclaimed from current tenants for re-letting, A mixture of entirely uncultivated plots and partially cultivated plots where the tenant will be asked to reduce their plot size.
The corollary of this is that extrapolated across the entire acreage the council can whistle up somewhere between twenty and sixty individual five rod plots.
The waiting list has now been monitored beyond the simple quantity of waiters for three months. Over the period Sep-08 to Mar-09 an average of five people per month joined the list. From Apr-09 to Sep-09 and average of thirteen people joined this list. Since the change in data logging which started in Jul-09 an average of five and three-quarter people were allocated plots, meaning the list is growing by five people per month.
The conclusion.
While better, read as a stricter interpretation of the "failure to cultivate" clause in the tenancy, management of existing plots may reduce the waiting list, it will not clear it and we will gradually aquire better plotholders who are less likely to give up......

Therefore we need to investigate the possibilities of resurrecting a derelict site or aquiring a new site of about 250 rentable rod.

:shock: :shock: Ooh Mabel pass the smelling salts I feel all faint.

Muggins here has volunteered to assist with assessing site suitability and writing down what is needed.

So with as pretty a please as I can manage, can people contribute some sensible lists of what a new site should have, oh and the budget will be tighter than the proverbial ducks.........

My starter for ten is:
1. Sheltered and relatively level site, with good topsoil, any down slope being to the south or west, not a wind tunnel or frost pocket.
2. Secure fence at least 6’ high surrounding entire site.
3. Water troughs around the site, about one per 50 rod.
4. Vehicle access to site, with a farm track either, up the middle from the gate with a turning point at the opposite end, or a loop round the perimeter back to the gate.
5. Some parking space within the site, car equals crèche for young families and mobile tool shed for others.
6. Clearly marked plots with corner posts separated from their neighbours by two foot six inch wide paths, i.e. wheelbarrow sized, preferably mown grass.
7. A native hedge planted inside or outside the fence to provide natural barbed wire, blackberries, sloes, rose hips and wind shelter.
8. A site apiary for up to five hives.
9. A secure shipping container or site office thingy, either for the site agent, or with the addition of secure internal divisions making up optional rentable store cupboards.
10. Dump area in two parts, incoming for manure or compost, outgoing for non-compostable waste.

Re: The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:20 pm
by Johnboy
Hi Peter,
It all seems pretty fair to me. May I add to your list of 'Nasties' Berberis which is fairly quick growing and is a fine deterrent.
JB.

Re: The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:03 pm
by sally wright
Dear Peter,
toilet?
regards Sally Wright

Re: The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:49 pm
by peter
I'll save mentioning the DDA to them until later. :wink:

Disability Discrimination Act.

Re: The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:48 am
by glallotments
We have a bay for wood chippings which many use for pathways.

I'd suggest a higher fence preferrably with anti climb paint at the top.

Good strong padlocks that are repairable we have some that fall apart within a few days (provided by the council).

Re: The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:29 pm
by Monika
Sounds an absolutely ideal site, Peter, particularly with the addition of toilets. Our mini site (just 8 plots) only fulfills one of your ten criteria (the water tub for the whole site, although we have only had that for two years), the remainder are just a dream.

As well as the native hedge, I would include a "wildlife patch" with grasses and nectar-rich flowers, log and stone piles for frogs, toads and newts to hibernate (and perhaps a small pond for them to breed) and not keep it too tidy over winter to provide lots of hidy-holes for insects.

Re: The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:26 am
by glallotments
And if you want to be able to have a chance of winning the KG allotment site of the year - and area for the local school to garden and a mobile classroom that doubles as a community area where tenants can have a coffee etc. If you don't have sheds then they will need somewhere to meet up.

Dreaming again

Re: The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:21 pm
by Stephen
What a list!
On Butts Meadow we have:
1: sloping site to the NNE (but a great view)
2: a fence of variable quality with an irregular hedge
3: 3 water troughs between 42 plots.
4: Vehicle access limited (Council's locked gate) but we do get manure delivered.
5: no parking
6: paths are fine
7: hedge see above
8: no arrangements for bees (but may be possible, I have not asked)
9: No site office of any sort
10: The council no longer take stuff away (but I consider this to be a personal responsibility, especially if you can get a car to the site)

In may ways, I think we are lucky!

(Oh yes, a plot is given to the local primary school)

Re: The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:25 am
by glallotments
Mm - don't think my list of ideal describes our site.

We are lucky in that we have vehicle access and water taps at a ratio of something like one to six plots.

We managed to fund raise and have a new secure gate and bit of fencing installed but some folk just won't keep it shut let alone locked.

The rest of our fencing is broken down. None of the other facilities. Our council don't like improving sites and we are council owned.