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In the past week I have heard, on air, Patrick Moore of Greenpeace admit that the Greenpeace policy towards Nuclear Fuel and Nuclear Medicine has been wrong as they now realise that both are needed.
Now Greenpeace have declared Genetically Modified Organisms as pollution and have been the prime movers, along with the Organic Faction, behind the destruction of GM Field Trials on a worldwide basis. This is a battle that they have been losing, although the policy in Europe has been very anti GM, the rest of the world seems to be using it very successfully.
I now wonder how long it is going to be before we hear Patrick Moore saying that Greenpeace realise that their policy towards GM has been so wrong and that it possible that GM can play a vital part in curbing world starvation.
In the broadcast Patrick Moore went on to say that Greenpeace have now turned their attentions towards Alcohol as their latest target. Vineyards should be grubbed out and the growing of Barley for brewing must cease and vegetables should be grown in their place. I wonder what those who like a goodly pint or to sip a glass of wine as they relax after a days hard toil will feel?
The annoying thing with what Patrick Moore of Greenpeace says is that there are those amongst us who believe in his every word and will act on his every command.
Again, how long is it going to be before Greenpeace starts taking direct action against Vineyards and wine maturing in vats and wine making equipment? How long before we get the destruction of fields of Barley just in case it may to be used in brewing?
To me Patrick Moore and Greenpeace are a cancer on society!
JB.

JB, perhaps said gentleman had been in hostility before being interviewed and had imbibed rather too much of the available refreshments.

Johnboy wrote:Vineyards should be grubbed out and the growing of Barley for brewing must cease and vegetables should be grown in their place.

The best wines are grown in regions which have a soil and climate ill suited for growing anything else. Some vineyard's soils are so poor and dry they don't even grow weeds.
Ditto for barley, which grows in northerly, exposed areas where little else prevails. From other quarters, I hear woolly-headed notions of putting grassland over to crop production, rather than having animals eat the grass which we in turn eat, which is considered inefficient. Maybe, but not for hill farmers. For food security in the long term, we need to be looking at reclaiming set aside so that we don't have to import so much. It was a policy which served us well in the last war, but we can only do so without the EU. Patrick Moore such get himself a better grasp of the fundamentals of food production before he next opens his mouth.

Read the detailed article and make up your own mind.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01209.html

Hi Alan,
Thank you for the website it sheds a little more light on the subject.
A quote from the article:
What nobody noticed at the time, though, was that Three Mile Island was in fact a success story: The concrete containment structure did just what it was designed to do -- prevent radiation from escaping into the environment. And although the reactor itself was crippled, there was no injury or death among nuclear workers or nearby residents.

Patrick Moore and his disciples have used Three Mile Island as their example worldwide for the reason that we should not have Nuclear Fuelled Power Stations. It has taken him all these years to come to his senses even though it was pointed out at the time that although there was a near catastrophe it was contained. That was not good enough for Patrick Moore because, all these years, he has said how lucky it was at TMI and it was a matter of luck and not good design that saved the day.
He has done his very best to turn people away from Nuclear Fuel and it will take people a very long time to even begin to believe him. Now I never believe anything Greenpeace say because they simply only listen to their own voices and they,according to them, are will forever be correct.
As an example of Greenpeace antics; When 14,000,000. people in Africa were seriously threatened with starvation Greenpeace representatives were holding meeting of young mothers and pregnant women telling them that if they were to feed their children on genetically modified Maize Meal their children would die of Cancer which is to me a crime against humanity! It just proves how low they will stoop to prove their correctness which is nearly a mile away from the truth.
Should we ever trust Greenpeace? Well to me the answer is NO. They simple do not recognise the truth and are only interested in what they are saying and will listen to nobody. The trouble that they have caused with regards to the building of Nuclear Fuelled Power Stations has put us in the predicament we find ourselves in today.
JB.

Hi Felix,
Johnboy was quoting what Patrick Moore said.
I am fully aware of what you have said is correct and the same goes for those who advocated getting rid of grazing animals and grow vegetables on the land they use. It only goes to prove how stupid some of these people are! As I have quoted recently grass can grow on 0.5" of soil!
If anybody can tell me which vegetables will grow in that amount of soil I would be more than obliged.
JB.

In the past week I have heard, on air, Patrick Moore of Greenpeace admit that the Greenpeace policy towards Nuclear Fuel and Nuclear Medicine has been wrong as they now realise that both are needed.

Johnboy,

Having done a bit more digging on "Patrick Moore of Greenpeace", I'm afraid to say that you have been purposely misled, and your comments on Greenpeace are misleading to others.

Have look atthis information from Greenpeace.

The introduction states as follows:

Patrick Moore, a paid spokesman for the nuclear industry, frequently cites a long-ago affiliation with Greenpeace to gain legitimacy in the media. Several media outlets recently either stated or implied that Mr. Moore still represents Greenpeace, or failed to mention his current ties to the nuclear industry. This page contains all the information journalists need to accurately describe Mr. Moore and to judge his credibility. We’ve included some information below and have attached several recent articles about Mr. Moore.

This casts a significantly different light on your original posting, I think.

Hi Alan,
So what a lying Ba----d Patrick Moore is. He purported that he was representing Greenpeace and his attachment to the Nuclear Industry was not mentioned.
So where does this leave Greenpeace? Still opposed to Nuclear anything I suppose.
The thing that gets me in all of this is that the BBC should have known this before they made the broadcast on the World Service which in my eyes makes it even worse! A letter to my MP will be in the post by this evening with regard the misinformation broadcast by the BBC.
The Washington Post article only make it worse.
This really is a scandalous state of affairs.
What I do know is that the posting about Greenpeace malarkey in Africa is true.
Come to think of it, that information was on the BBC on a phone-in programme from a person purporting to be a British doctor on home leave!
Am I to discount any information from the BBC? This makes me really sad to think that what I hear on air must be taken with an even bigger pinch of salt!
I apologise for a misleading posting.
JB.

Johnboy wrote: In the broadcast Patrick Moore went on to say that Greenpeace have now turned their attentions towards Alcohol as their latest target. Vineyards should be grubbed out and the growing of Barley for brewing must cease and vegetables should be grown in their place. I wonder what those who like a goodly pint or to sip a glass of wine as they relax after a days hard toil will feel?

Again, how long is it going to be before Greenpeace starts taking direct action against Vineyards and wine maturing in vats and wine making equipment? How long before we get the destruction of fields of Barley just in case it may to be used in brewing?
JB.

Another bit of malicious b******s from Mr M.

Here's the latest article from Greenpeace on French wines.