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Dear All
I've decided to cut down on the heavy work on the veg plot (I'm getting too old! :roll: ) and thought I might turn part of it into a soft fruit growing area, instead of just grassing it over. I've never grown soft fruits before, but assume that after they're planted the work involved is basically pruning and spraying. (?). The area is 10ft x 10ft and is well-worked and fertilised soil that has been used to grow everything from pots. to sprouts.
The fruit we might grow would be red/blackcurrants, gooseberries and raspberries.
Advice, please, on the following:
1. Does the soil need special preparation/fertiliser for soft fruit bushes?
2. I would buy a cage - recommendations, please. Price is not the most important factor, but should I go for a specialist, or bog-standard garden centre products? Second hand? Something myself plus memsahib can erect.
3. Is March/April the right time to buy and plant? OK to plant before cage is built? For fruit this year or next year?
Thank you all - any other ideas welcomed :D
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JohnN wrote:.....I've never grown soft fruits before, but assume that after they're planted the work involved is basically pruning and spraying. .......

Don't forget weeding and manuring.

JohnN wrote:.....The area is 10ft x 10ft and is well-worked and fertilised soil that has been used to grow everything....

Should be fine, just add manure at appropriate time of year.
I tend to add in spring as a combined mulch and top dressing.

Make sure there is no bindweed.

Can you cope with fruit overload?
Or to put it another way, do yourself and your good lady like jam making?
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Thank you Peter.
I'm thinking of 6 bushes - three raspberry on one side of a small path, plus two gooseberry and one blackcurrent on the other. We both like raspberries, I love goosegogs, and a blackcurrent just for fun :x
No, we are not into jam making but we have a big freezer and like all sorts of fruit pies and crumbles.
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Hello John
Taking your questions in turn

1 As with anything the better the preparation the better the results will be. Get the soil as clean as possible - taking great care to get out perennial weeds especially bindweed as mentioned above. Incorporate as much organic stuff as possible particularly in the raspberry bed. Use a balanced fertilizer such as growmore or better still a high P and K one if you need to improve the nutrient levels. I also use sequestered iron on my bushes to prevent chlorosis but this may just because my soil is rather light.

2 I've had a TwoWests standard fruit cage for many years and it has given very good service.

http://www.twowests.co.uk/TwoWestsSite/product/FCS6.htm

The tubing is aluminium, the corner joints are nylon and the whole thing is put together by simply and easily knocking the joints onto the tubing with a wooden mallet. This system like many others is based on a 6 ft spacing of uprights but some use other lengths eg 8ft. Years ago I tried various DIY poles and rods without much success. With this TW system you can either buy the complete kit or get the poles and joints separately if say you've already got some netting. Its easy to modify as the alloy tubing can be neatly cut to any size with a plumbers pipe cutting tool (TW suggest a hacksaw but it is not that easy to get a clean cut).

3 It doesn't matter whether you plant first or put cage up first. It's very important to decide what cage you're going to get though so that you get the plant spacing correct. Allow room inside your cage to move around for picking taking into account the final sizes of your bushes.
If you use a 6 ft system this would be a good plan (poles in red) if you can make your cage 12ft x 12ft rather than 10ft square:


O----------O----------O

— 7 raspberries —

O----------O----------O

— 3 fruit bushes —

O----------O----------O

Raspberries are spaced at 18in so 7 in a row allows room to get round the end of the rows and for wire supports. Fruit bushes are normally 3ft apart so 3 in row will give you just enough room to get round. If you have to use a 10ft square cage use the same plan but with only 6 raspberries in the row.
Now is the time to plant your bushes but time is running out.
If you choose summer fruiting raspberries (in my opinion these are by far the best) you won't be picking any fruit until next year. Don't expect your fruit bushes to give you much fruit this year.
Hope all this is of some use

John

PS Raspberries are such a versatile (and delicious fruit) I've suggested 6 or 7 rather than the 3 you suggested. They freeze well and make superb jam!
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I was waiting to reply with some photos but it hasn't been fit.

I don't like net-to-ground fruit cages because I find weeds grow in the net and are a bugger to remove and Blackbirds seem to eventually burrow underneath. My cage is built with a course of breeze blocks round the bottom but you could easily use treated planks like 6x1 instead. I don't use soft netting either, 1m windbreak (the black plastic type with oval holes) at the bottom with chicken wire above and on the roof all supported with treated poles.

If it doesn't shade anything else how about making the Northern side semi solid? 1m of boards with windbreak above. You could then grow say 2 or 3 each of cordon Gooseberries and Red Currants against it. You'd have room for a row of Raspberries and a row of bushes, 1 Blackcurrant and 2 Blueberries maybe? Or a part row of Summer Raspberries with a bush at the end and the same of Autumn Raspberries with a bush. You could substitute a growbag of Strawberries for a bush. A Black Currant and a bag of Strawberries would probably be more productive than the Blueberries.

I like concrete paths dividing the area up as it makes managing them so much easier.
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Thanks everyone for the useful advice. I've purchased some raspberry canes, one gooseberry and one blackcurrant bush - probably get some more in the autumn. Thanks "John" for the contact with TwoWests - I think I will get their 12 x 6 cage, which will fit my plot OK and I will be able to use the present 6" x 1" tannelised surrounds as a base for the netting.
As I won't be able to plant the bushes/canes out until April, I've transferred them into big pots, with JINo2 + a small amount of B,F&B meal + Growmore, well-watered, and stored in greenhouse. I hope this will give them a good start ready for setting the whole pot contents in the cage later?
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