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Apple trees for producing cider.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:58 pm
by Samantha
Hi all,

I would like to begin producing my own cider. Which apple trees/name are best suited for growing in West Yorkshire, England?

Just wondered if anyone out there could offer any advice.

Many thanks

Samantha :)

Re: Apple trees for producing cider.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:30 pm
by oldherbaceous
Dear Samantha, not sure there would be any specific ones to West Yorkshire, but you would want one with a later flowering season so the flowers don't get damaged by cold Springs.

Had you given any thought to the quality of the juice you will be after, as in, mildly bittersweet, medium bittersweet and so on.

Re: Apple trees for producing cider.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:40 am
by Shallot Man
Samantha. As a cider drinker, I would like to volunteer for the post of sampler. shallotman

Re: Apple trees for producing cider.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:02 pm
by Cider Boys
Hello Samantha

May I congratulate you in choosing to pursue such a wonderful and fulfilling hobby.

Cyder making is easy, all you need are apples that you crush and press and a container for the juice and a means of covering to keep both the air out and the dreaded vinegar fly at bay. You need no added yeast, the natural yeasts from the apples will start the fermentation to make good cyder.

Every time you make a cyder it will be different from any previous tastes and the larger scale scrumpy maker would blend their cyders from the bitter sharp and bitter sweet varieties.

Locally we have still an abundance of Morgan Sweet apples that make an early cyder that you can drink just after Christmas but it is not the best apple in my opinion. However when apples are in short supply I have made cyder from Bramley apples, damn sharp but mixed with fizzy lemonade it still was a good drink.

I do not know what is best for West Yorkshire (I thought that you all drank bitter ale there) but I’m sure a good nurseryman would advise you.

Although not like the good old days, there are still many traditional cyder makers in the West Country especially in Somerset and apples such as Kingston Black, Slack My Girdle, Tremlett’s Bitter, Yarlington Mill, Somerset Red and many more including Tom Putt are used.

I have not made any cyder for the last couple of years but my eldest son still makes a drop and I always make a point of acting as his quality controller!!

A lot of scrumpy cyder offered for sale to holiday makers is pretty awful, but good for drain clearance. However there are many fine cyder boys still lurking in Somerset such as Roger Wilkins

I first tasted cyder as a boy when helping myself to some of my father’s that he kept in his cool larder, later on as a teenager I visited Taunton Cider Factory as part of an educational school visit (it was an agricultural technical school), what a lot of first class cyder they made in those days, none of us could remember the coach trip back to school.

Another first class cyder was that made by Michael Eavis of Glastonbury Festival fame, I remember doing some work for him when it was named the Pilton Blues or Pop Festival. He made the cyder for a local Hotel and gave us all some after the work was finished, this was an astute man ‘cause we weren’t much good after drinking this fine cyder.

Although I haven’t made any for a couple of years, I still regularly succumb and have a quart or two especially at elevenses with a slab of quality Cheddar.

I have very fond memories of times in the hay fields when the cyder (usually watered down) was drunk by us workers and of times when some used to fall asleep and then had to be carried home in agony where they had got sun burnt.

You best find yourself some apple trees and start making it because you will have along wait before any young sapling will provide enough apples.

Try the link for a first class scrumpy man.

http://www.c1der.co.uk/cider_with_roger.htm

Best of luck

Barney

Re: Apple trees for producing cider.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:56 pm
by oldherbaceous
Dear Barney, what some lovely stories of years long gone.

Some of my happiest memories are long days working on the farms as a lad.

Re: Apple trees for producing cider.

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:25 pm
by Samantha
Dear Barney

Struggeling with my replies at the moment...I put it down to being a novis using the forum, so please excuse me, I hope this reaches you!

Many thanks for your excellent reply. It was so informative and a pleasure to read, the video link was great too.

We have just purchased two apple trees - a Black dabinett and a Yarlington Mill, cant wait to get going!

Will keep the forum updated over the coming years!

Many thanks and kind regards, Samantha.

P.s were not all ale drinking, Flat capped, whippet walkers! :lol: :lol:

Re: Apple trees for producing cider.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:03 pm
by sally wright
Dear Samamtha,
have a look at rv roger of pickering for cider trees. They might have some local varieties.
Regards Sally Wright.

Re: Apple trees for producing cider.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:10 pm
by Samantha
Hi Sally

Thankyou so much for your reply.

we have just bought two apple trees and have planted them today....so here goes!

Kind regards

Samantha