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Potato Planting Yesterday in Jersey (mk2)

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:24 pm
by Cider Boys
At last thanks to my friend in Jersey I've managed to load the pictures of Potato Planting yesterday in Jersey together with his description.

Preparing a côtil (steeply sloping field) this morning for planting Jersey Royal potatoes.

And here's the winch, made in Jersey by L.C.Pallot & Sons, the agricultural engineers who created our steam & agricultural museum. Two arms fit beneath the tractor's axle and the winch is secured by the top link. It is chain driven from a sprocket on the PTO shaft, with a dog clutch between the driven sprocket and the winch drum. The right hand is on the clutch lever, the horizontal handle of which is just visible.

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We lift the plough by its handles and stagger down the hill with it as the cable pays itself out. Note the double handles on the plough to facilitate this. On really steep fields I've seen people running down with the lighter, potato planting ploughs, one of which I hope to picture our aliens using soon. ...
I'm told that the winch's dog clutch was a welcome improvement: previous winches relied on the tractor's clutch and PTO engagment, thus with old grey fergies the man pulling the plough down the field was also having to overcome the resistance of the not-so-freewheeling hydraulic pump.
Hard work, but a vast improvement on having to dig by hand, as horses take exception if you try to connect a PTO shaft.

The reward is earlier potatoes, therefore a higher price because the early côtils face south into the sun, warming the soil. In recent years, fields of potatoes have been covered in polythene and sometimes fleece to achieve an even earlier crop. From the air the island appears to be covered in lakes, confusing visitors flying in &, occasionally, uneducated birds.
Every tiny côtil is used (perhaps less so now than in the old days) and tonight's local newspaper has a photo of men planting potatoes in a commercial field of only ten square yards (not ten yards square, ten square yards) with the caption "is this the smallest field in Jersey?"

As promised, pictures of the planting plough in action this afternoon. In October, staff were employed in "standing" the seed potatoes i.e. placing them on end, the right way up, in a single layer in the potato boxes seen here so that their shoots develop in the same direction. The boxes are stacked in a loft in single rows to allow light to reach the potatoes. I've just realised that this is what is called "chitting" in the UK; I was thinking that the method was unique to Jersey until it occurred to me that we do refer to "chitting lights" (fluorescent tubes used on end to provide light between the rows) prompting me to look up "chitting". My apologies. Other than in "chitting lights" I've never heard the word used in Jersey; we always say "standing".
Once the shoots have developed the potatoes are planted, as seen here, individually by hand with their shoots pointing upwards, as I now realise that you already know!
The furrow is only three to four inches deep; the furrow wheel is very thin, about 3mm, to clear the potatoes. The mouldboard is about 20 inches (500mm) long, and is adjustable by means of a hook (visible in the top photo) engaging one of a number of holes behind it to select the distance between rows. The soil is not turned over as with a normal plough, it just slides across to the previous furrow to cover the potatoes.
This field is now covered with fleece in anticipation of tonight's frost.
What goes up:

...must come down:

Oh yes; the tractor: TEF 511292, delivered by the local Ferguson agent on October 11th 1956 to another local garage, probably for one of the second garage's customers.
Regards
Ian

My thanks to fellow Ferguson fan and potato buff Ian.

Best wishes

Barney

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:12 pm
by Compo
An amazing story Barney. It may be the perspective of the camera but it looks as if the seed is really close together, if I am right I wonder why that is?

Compo

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:59 pm
by oldherbaceous
Dear Barney, i must say that was very interesting, and lovely photo's too.

One thing i'm glad to see, is that they seem to be making a living while still doing the job with small scale machinery, well i hope they are making a living.

How are your broad beans looking this year by the way, i know you try and catch the early market with them.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:28 pm
by Cider Boys
Hello Oldherbaceous and Compo

Thanks for your kind words, I agree that the spacings look very close but I think that is due to the camera angle as Compo suggests.

Yes we managed to sow some beans in October in a very heavy silty clay following a high yielding but disastrous slug damaged potato crop and another sowing in November in a light sandstone. Both sites look good so far.

Hope all is well with you.

Barney

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:01 pm
by Compo
So Barney........prey tell.....what time of year would the Channel Isle farmers put their Jersey Royals in and when can I think about putting in the dozen or so that I brought from the Garden Centre today? I can use, plastic or fleece or even part of my giant cold frame?

Compo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:05 am
by Cider Boys
Hello Compo

The pictures are from 26 January, they are planting now. (Or as the Americans would irritatingly say 'right now'.)

As for us it all depends on the prevailing weather conditions but with the aid of plastic/fleece we try to start at the end of February but of course it is a gamble. If you want early potatoes I would start chitting now and take a chance but also plant later just in case the frosts appear.

All the best

Barney

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:13 am
by Shallot Man
I bet theirs a fight for the tractor drivers job each morning. shallot man

Tuber Spacing and Rotation

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:11 pm
by Cider Boys
Hello Compo

Regarding the tuber spacing, please find my Jersey Ferguson friends explanations below.

These are seven inches apart, in 18" rows, because they will be dug when the potatoes are small so they will not need any more room than that to develop. If they were on a level field where they will take longer to grow (horizontal soil benefits less from the sun's warmth - think of solar panels) they would be about 9" apart because they wouldn't be ready until the price has fallen, therefore a greater yield is required to achieve a reasonable return.
The only crop on côtils and in many fields is potatoes, grown every year. Between crops, a green manure of grass or mustard is grown and ploughed in - this also helps to keep the land clear of weeds. Until recent years, most farmers here spread seaweed (vraic) on their potato fields & ploughed it in but very few use it these days. As far as I am aware, there is no conventional crop rotation here (i.e. a different crop grown for each of two or three years then left fallow for a year, if I remember correctly.) I presume this is because land is too valuable to grow low value intermediate crops in it. Outdoor tomatoes are no longer grown in Jersey, which seems extraordinary to me as they were a major industry when I was young.

There is concern that the nitrate content of our drinking water is excessive due to the volume of artificial fertiliser spread on potato fields then washed into streams feeding reservoirs. The waterworks company reduces the concentration of nitrates in our water supply with sea water passed through a reverse osmosis plant.
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Also another thought from a Ferguson fan.

I believe that on (sorry, should that be in?) Jersey, the farmers can "get away" without a conventional crop rotation as the duration of each potato crop is quite short. The potatoes grow much quicker and are picked at an earlier stage than most main crop potatoes are in the UK. This means that pests such as PCN (potato cyst nematodes) do not get to complete their full life cycle and therefore do not build up in numbers in the soil.
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As for me I will be planting my early potatoes on steeply sloping ground that we have had to plough downhill and is now under black silage sheeting. Unfortunately our ground is ‘North’ facing unlike the Jersey côtils.

All the best

Barney

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:47 pm
by John
This has been a really fascinating thread - a great read.
Many thanks Barney for all the trouble you have gone to with the photos and so on.

John

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:08 pm
by alan refail
Barney

Great photos and very informative text.
I'm sure everyone will agree that this has been one the most interesting posts on the forum in recent months.

Alan

Re: Potato Planting Yesterday in Jersey (mk2)

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:57 pm
by Lurganspade
Hi
Re planting potatoe's in Jersey.

Do they plant in the same fields each year,or is there some rotation?



There cannot be that many fields that face south?

Ta!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:36 pm
by oldherbaceous
Dear Lurganspade, i think the answer you are after is in Barney's last reply.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:03 pm
by Cider Boys
May I say thank you to both Alan and John for your kind remarks.
Further information can be found on the link
http://www.jerseyroyals.co.uk/
http://jersey.com/content_page.asp?id=112&lan=

Best Wishes

Barney

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:12 pm
by Lurganspade
oldherbaceous wrote:Dear Lurganspade, i think the answer you are after is in Barney's last reply.


Hi!

I read Barney's quote above,without taking it in fully!

So where does that leave the "Great No No" that you must not replant the same crops in the same ground year after year?
I have to admit I never replant the same crop in the same spot, I always plant in fresh ground!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:32 pm
by oldherbaceous
Well it goes to prove something, and that is, theres more than one way to do anything. :wink: