We are very new to gardening, just taken over an allotment in the village. Part of the allotment was largely laid to potato, We would like to know which crop follows on from potato please?
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Welcome to the forum J&J.
Peas, beans and salad crops are the best to follow on from potatoes.
But you can really put anything on this year, trying to avoid potatoes and tomatoes, and then start the rotational thing next year.
Peas, beans and salad crops are the best to follow on from potatoes.
But you can really put anything on this year, trying to avoid potatoes and tomatoes, and then start the rotational thing next year.
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Yes it is!
I`ve learned so much from the members of this forum. Everybody is so friendly and helpful.
I`ve learned so much from the members of this forum. Everybody is so friendly and helpful.
Well J & J, you've seen the forum so now I hope you're off to buy the mag. - better still, take out a subscription!!! Its the best read around for veg gardeners.
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Hi J&J, welcome to the club [why should OH be the only one to say that all the time??]
If you find there's rather too much space for the beans and peas you want to grow, you can also grow onions and garlic productively after potatoes. You can still get Printanor for spring sowing from the Organic Catalogue, or some elephant garlic or Solent Wight from "The Garlic Farm".
Were I in you situation again, I would work out the rotation I want to use and then sow whatever patch is going to be for spuds or tomatoes with a green manure. Mustard is great for a quick-growing GM during the summer, Phacelia tanacetiflolia for spring to late summer sowing [my favourite, as it makes a nice thick carpet], andthere are nitrogen fixers like alphalpha, the clovers and winter tares, which you can sow in late summer and dig in in spring before putting in your brassicas.
You'll find other ideas on this forum, like manuring on the surface and putting down a layer of cardboard or heavy-duty black polythene overthe manure, to stop leaching, protect from weed seeds and warm up the soil as spring moves in. It's a great forum, with lots of ideas, discussions and even the odd argument or two!
good luck
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If you find there's rather too much space for the beans and peas you want to grow, you can also grow onions and garlic productively after potatoes. You can still get Printanor for spring sowing from the Organic Catalogue, or some elephant garlic or Solent Wight from "The Garlic Farm".
Were I in you situation again, I would work out the rotation I want to use and then sow whatever patch is going to be for spuds or tomatoes with a green manure. Mustard is great for a quick-growing GM during the summer, Phacelia tanacetiflolia for spring to late summer sowing [my favourite, as it makes a nice thick carpet], andthere are nitrogen fixers like alphalpha, the clovers and winter tares, which you can sow in late summer and dig in in spring before putting in your brassicas.
You'll find other ideas on this forum, like manuring on the surface and putting down a layer of cardboard or heavy-duty black polythene overthe manure, to stop leaching, protect from weed seeds and warm up the soil as spring moves in. It's a great forum, with lots of ideas, discussions and even the odd argument or two!
good luck
mike
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Hi J & J,
Also welcome to this, the greatest of gardening Forum's.
Reading Mikes letter you, as very new gardeners, you may be somewhat perplexed. I think that all you have to really worry about with rotation at this stage of the proceedings, is not to grow either Potatoes or any of the Cabbage family on the same plot as the previous year. So you know where they were last year so do not use the same plot this year. Once you become more familiar with the whole thing you will come to such things as 'green manures' which in the fullness of time you will realize their worth.
The biggest mistake with people new to the game is to fill the whole plot up as quick as you possibly can, which as you will realize is a big mistake.
The whole art of growing vegetables is to provide a constant supply of them for as long as you can during the entire year.
If there ever comes a time when you need urgent information and you feel that you should know but don't know and are loathe to make a chump of yourself use the PM system and mail anybody privately. There is no such thing as a stupid question and if you do not understand the reply never be afraid to say so. I had an occasion about 5 years ago when I had to reword my reply four times before the person understood. We are all very patient people.
I wish you the very best of growing in this your very first year.
Sincerely,
JB.
Also welcome to this, the greatest of gardening Forum's.
Reading Mikes letter you, as very new gardeners, you may be somewhat perplexed. I think that all you have to really worry about with rotation at this stage of the proceedings, is not to grow either Potatoes or any of the Cabbage family on the same plot as the previous year. So you know where they were last year so do not use the same plot this year. Once you become more familiar with the whole thing you will come to such things as 'green manures' which in the fullness of time you will realize their worth.
The biggest mistake with people new to the game is to fill the whole plot up as quick as you possibly can, which as you will realize is a big mistake.
The whole art of growing vegetables is to provide a constant supply of them for as long as you can during the entire year.
If there ever comes a time when you need urgent information and you feel that you should know but don't know and are loathe to make a chump of yourself use the PM system and mail anybody privately. There is no such thing as a stupid question and if you do not understand the reply never be afraid to say so. I had an occasion about 5 years ago when I had to reword my reply four times before the person understood. We are all very patient people.
I wish you the very best of growing in this your very first year.
Sincerely,
JB.
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Hear, hear. JB is absolutely right, especially about trying to fill a whole plot all at once.
By the way, I might have some Solent Wight garlic to spare [I'm not absolutel;y sure], so you can pm me if you want some. It's a July-maturing variety, so plantable in Feb/Mar.
mike
By the way, I might have some Solent Wight garlic to spare [I'm not absolutel;y sure], so you can pm me if you want some. It's a July-maturing variety, so plantable in Feb/Mar.
mike
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Johnboy wrote:Hi J & J,
Also welcome to this, the greatest of gardening Forum's.
Reading Mikes letter you, as very new gardeners, you may be somewhat perplexed. I think that all you have to really worry about with rotation at this stage of the proceedings, is not to grow either Potatoes or any of the Cabbage family on the same plot as the previous year. So you know where they were last year so do not use the same plot this year. Once you become more familiar with the whole thing you will come to such things as 'green manures' which in the fullness of time you will realize their worth.
The biggest mistake with people new to the game is to fill the whole plot up as quick as you possibly can, which as you will realize is a big mistake.
The whole art of growing vegetables is to provide a constant supply of them for as long as you can during the entire year.
If there ever comes a time when you need urgent information and you feel that you should know but don't know and are loathe to make a chump of yourself use the PM system and mail anybody privately. There is no such thing as a stupid question and if you do not understand the reply never be afraid to say so. I had an occasion about 5 years ago when I had to reword my reply four times before the person understood. We are all very patient people.
I wish you the very best of growing in this your very first year.
Sincerely,
Many Thanks JB.
We really appreciate the advice givenTaking on this plot has been daunting to say the least. We are digging over the plot at the moment and will take the advice of the KG forum and plant slowly. I feel keeping on top of the weeds is going to take up a lot of our time.
Regards J&J
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