Apple ident'

[Clive.]

Hello,

I wonder if anyone can have a stab at a variety for these Apples.
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They are crisp, juicy and quite edible now straight from the tree.

I suspect they should be larger??..the tree is a poorly cordon that has suffered from woolly aphid that has disfigured the main trunk. It tends to be absolutely loaded with fruit.

Any thoughts...??.

Pound coin for size ref'...It's not the prize for naming.!!

Thank you,
Clive.

[oldherbaceous]

Dear Clive, i was thinking of Summer Golden Pippin.

Do you mean the prize is going to be more than the pound coin then.

[Clive.]

Prize..wot prize.??

If there was a prize..I ate it as part of the ongoing investigation...

Thank you for your thoughts on this one Old H'...

The name did not ring any bells with my colleague Paul..which I had hoped it may as I suspect he may have planted the tree.

I have had a look around the www and the variety looks a possibility...but would welcome any further thoughts. The Brogdale site shows an apple with a deeper inset stalk and calyx end than the ones I photo'ed.??

Anyway, the reason for my interest in naming all the apple pergola walk is to do with an apple themed open day coming up in a fortnight.

We know from records, old and new, all but 2 of the varieties..some being now rather tired trees from 1925-1932? whilst many are now more recent replacements..

I have been busy this weekend stamping copper slating strips to attach to the oak posts.

I was rather hoping someone would suggest a name starting with BA... ...
....as I picked up the wrong stamp when I came to do the second letter of Beauty of Bath...
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Perhaps this is cue to buy a BArdsey or some such when the next old tree fails

..and please don't tell me there's an E in Wilks....some places seem to give an E some don't..??!!

Thank you,
Clive.

[Tigger]

The top 2 look a bit like Discovery, but the bottom one doesn't. What about taking them to an apple heritage day to get them named?

[richard p]

if youve an open day coming up, wynot leave out a pencil and paper and ask for suggestions?...you might be lucky

[Geoff]

We were given an unknown tree that turned out quite good. We took it to RHS Harlow Carr Apple Day 2 years ago and they were undecided and asked for more information so last year we went again armed with photographs of the tree in blossom, close-ups of the blossom and some more fruit. They took them away and rang us back to say they thought it was Epicure. They also had a display of many different varieties so you could make your own assessment. I would definitely recommend an Apple Day if you can get to one.
If your apples are all that slightly elongated shape I think it should give an expert a good clue.

[Clive.]

Hello,

Thank you Old H', Tigger, Richard p, Geoff for your thoughts.

I did take 3 varieties last year for ident at an event at Wragby, Lincs..

Left of photo and middle we did not know at all...we were advised they are Catshead and Queen. The ones on the right was a confirmation of Blenheim Orange.

Meanwhile, this year an event is coming to us...not strictly an identification event...but an Apple themed open day...so, yes, a display plate with a will be a good way forward...

I thought though I would post on and try to get name/s in the frame ahead of the event..to give variety 35?.

Today between vacuum cleaning, moving a snooker table, mowing/sheltering from the rain and squalls etc. ..I took 2 more photos of the errant tree and its Apples.



Thank you,
Clive.

[Mole]

Hi All

The apple in Clive's photo is certainly not Discovery (sorry Tigger). Too late, wrong shape, too stripy.


Here is a link for downloading a Apple ID key based on MS Access -

If you use it Clive please let us know what it suggests.

http://www.nat-orchard-forum.org.uk/App ... nload.html

Introduction

Apple varieties are difficult to identify first because there are so many of them (upwards of 2000 in the UK alone) and secondly because they are highly responsive to differences in soil, climate and cultivation practices

AppleKey™ has been developed as an aid for identifying apple varieties. It contains descriptions of approximately 750 varieties.

AppleKey™ uses an extremely fast and effective filtering system to home in on varieties that are similar to the unknown. Varieties having particular characteristics are retained and those not having them are discarded. These "Probables" can then be checked in a manual or by consulting an "expert" to determine which variety the unknown actually is.


another good site, but lacks some commonish varieties
http://www.orangepippin.com/default.aspx

Mole

[Tigger]

Yes Mole - now I can see it on the tree, it's too yellow - but not too late - we're still picking Discovery this year!

[Clive.]

Hello Mole,

Thank you for the info'....I have downloaded both versions of AppleKey..'cept I can't currently get them to work

I checked the version of MS Access on my machine and it seems to be 2000 version.

The 97 version acts as if it is about to work but then fails to a blank Access window...whilst the 2002 tells me that it was created on a newer Access than I have got.!!.

Not defeated...I will take it to work and see if I can run it there...my colleague tends to know how to beat things PC into submission..

All the best,
Clive.

[Clive.]

Hello,

The mystery Apple appeared today along with 35 of its garden colleagues at our Apple themed garden open day today...a local Apple enthusiast also brought along 30+ varieties from his own collection.

The property greenhouse budget has hopefully been boosted by the numerous visitors today...but the unknown Apple sadly did not receive a name..

I did get hold of a newer version of MS Access but despite a few goes with the AppleKey program I could not get to an appropriate suggestion of a variety....as I added the attributes the suggested list dwindled away to nil.

Photo thumbnail of our display today..


Clive.

[oldherbaceous]

Dear Clive, can i just say what a wonderful display of apples that you put on, i should think people had a most enjoyable day.