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Franchi seeds Butternut Rugosa
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:49 am
by Sue
Anyone grown these before? I've got 6 plants on the allotment producing a variety of fruits. They are butternut shape but huge. Some are yellow, some light green and some dark green and they are all quite nobbly i.e. not reeeeaaally looking like the picture on the front of the seed packet. Will they all come right in the end?
Thanks
Sue
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:55 pm
by sprout
I hope so sue, am growing these for the first time this year too and planted late. Mine are at the same stage as yours sound to be. As long as we get a few weeks with some sunshine, I still have hope

so I'm leaving them to get on with it until the vines die back!
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:21 pm
by Sue
Thanks Sprout - at least it's not just me. I started mine off inside and planted them out late May as fairly large plants.
All the rain is swelling the flipping things to mammoth proprtions. I'm going to be feeding the whole street at this rate
Sue
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:41 pm
by Vivien
Hi Sue,
Sorry for the late reply, but I grew these last year. They are quite knobbly compared with the usual butternuts, but bigger & equally delicious. They will take longer to ripen, so you might want to think about chopping off the ends of any stems that are running away so the plant puts its energy into what's there. They tasted great, too. Excellent roasted butternut risotto.
Best wishes,
Vivien
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:37 pm
by Sue
Thank you Vivien - it's getting a bit scary on the lottie. Every time I visit, the fruits have got bigger

and the plants are still flowering and making more
Will curb their enthusiasm as you suggest and try and ripen the most developed fruits.
Sue

Something scarey in the squash patch
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:37 pm
by Sue
How you getting on with these Sprout

I've started harvesting but still got a variety of colours and shapes
This one is the normal colour but awful big - do excuse the grubby mits, but was trying to show scale
Got some rounder green ones as well - ripe now but they have been the same colour right through and are not going any more yellow than this
This is the full harvest so far - note have also got steely blue coloured one and some striped green and yellow
I guess if they all taste OK then it will be fine, but I can't help wondering if they are all the same variety
Sue
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:12 pm
by peter
Looking at photo two, where the steel grey have yellowish stripes I would say that yellow is ripe?

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:28 pm
by Sue
Trouble is Peter that the yellow ones have been that colour from the start, so have not ripened from green. I've left the green & striped ones for weeks to see if they were going to change but no joy. Skins are rock hard and stalks dried out on them all
Sue
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:30 pm
by peter
Aaarrrrr, that be oii stumped then.
Hopefully someone else has grown them and will come forward.

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:41 pm
by Sue
Me un all mate but thanks for the thought
Sue
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:53 pm
by Garlic_Guy
Gosh, what an unusual variety of Butternut.
Sue, these look magnificent (they should last you a while!). Did you do anything clever to get them this size, or is it just the variety that leads to that?
Can you also say how many plants you had to get the crop your photo shows?
Finally, in my limited experience of BNS (just tried 2 strains so far) the fruit on mine has always started a pale colour, then goes a golden/light brown colour as the sun hardens the skin in the Autumn. I've never seen Butternuts like your darker ones. When you get round to tasting these ones, can you let us know what they're like?
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:20 am
by Johnboy
Dear Sue,
I give you great credit for producing some good specimens and if they taste as good as they look I should't worry too much. I do see the problem with harvesting because you are really stumped as to what is mature or not.
I would be inclined to send your photo's to Franchi and ask them just what they supplied.
Knowing how promiscuous the whole cucurbit family are they have crossed with something I am not surprised.
However I do envy you and hope you enjoy the eating.
JB.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:52 pm
by Primrose
Sue, I'm very impressed with your crop and the photos. But what surprises me about growing squashes is their uncanny ability to deviate from the colour and shape you expect them to be. Every time I've grown them something unexpected has happened to at least one plant. Is the seed genetically modified or something or do these plants just like to be perverse and keep us all guessing?
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:53 pm
by Johnboy
Hi Primrose,
The whole Cucubit Family are promiscuous and they so very easily hybridize by cross pollination. I takes simply one bee to be covered in the pollen of another variety and the chances are that the fruit will not breed true.
Normally bought seed comes true to form as the seed source is generally close pollinated although they are open pollinated plants.
I feel that I am not putting this as well as I might so if you don't understand this let me know and I'll rephrase it.
JB.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:42 pm
by Sue
Thanks for all your replies and reassuring words

I have 6 triffids (sorry squash plants) and there are at least as many fruits again still maturing in the jungle. I did nothing special except plant them and chuck some water over them as often as I could over the dry spell.
My neighbour on the lottie has also grown squashes so maybe they have crossed - dirty little devils
As soon as I pluck up courage to try and cut one - they have skins like iron & I have already ended up in A&E in a previous year - I'll let you know if they are delizioso or dire
Sue