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England's not so small either

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:57 am
by Chantal
My boss has a sister who lives in Newcastle upon Tyne. The first time he took his boys to visit, his eldest who was about 6 had a problem understanding what was being said and eventually went up to one of the local boys and said very loudly and clearly "My name's Duncan and I'm from England".

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:19 pm
by LakeView
It is remotely possible (giving those youths - dare not say kids - the benefit of the doubt) that they thought England might be a town in the US somewhere. There really are a lot of places in the US with place names borrowed from abroad...

The settlement of the American continent, once the eastern coast ranges were crossed, proceeded with unparalleled speed, and so the naming of the new rivers, lakes, peaks and valleys, and of the new towns and districts no less, strained the inventiveness of the pioneers. The result is the vast duplication of names that shows itself in the Postal Guide. No less than eighteen imitative Bostons and New Bostons still appear, and there are nineteen Bristols, twenty-eight Newports, and twenty-two Londons and New Londons. Argonauts starting out from an older settlement on the coast would take its name with them, and so we find Philadelphias in Illinois, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee, Richmonds in Iowa, Kansas and nine other western states, and Princetons in fifteen. Even when a new name was hit upon it seems to have been hit upon simultaneously by scores of scattered bands of settlers; thus we find the whole land bespattered with Washingtons, Lafayettes, Jeffersons and Jacksons, and with names suggested by common and obvious natural objects, e. g., Bear Creek, Bald Knob and Buffalo. The Geographic Board, in its fourth report, made a belated protest against this excessive duplication. ‘‘The names Elk, Beaver, Cottonwood and Bald,’’ it said, ‘‘are altogether too numerous.’’ Of postoffices alone there are fully a hundred embodying Elk; counting in rivers, lakes, creeks, mountains and valleys, the map of the United States probably shows at least twice as many such names.

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The tendency to name small American towns after the great capitals of antiquity has excited the derision of the English since the earliest days; there is scarcely an English book upon the states without some fling at it. Of late it has fallen into abeyance, though sixteen Athenses still remain, and there are yet many Carthages, Uticas, Syracuses, Romes, Alexandrias, Ninevehs and Troys. The third city of the nation, Philadelphia, got its name from the ancient stronghold of Philadelphus of Pergamon. To make up for the falling off of this old and flamboyant custom, the more recent immigrants have brought with them the names of the capitals and other great cities of their fatherlands. Thus the American map bristles with Berlins, Bremens, Hamburgs, Warsaws and Leipzigs, and is beginning to show Stockholms, Venices, Belgrades and Christianias.

http://www.bartleby.com/185/50.html

Then again, they may be clueless!

re: kids vs children

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:28 pm
by LakeView
My brother was once invited to dinner at a fellow farmer's house and asked to bring his kids. He did! They were 2 newborn kids that he brought in the house for the first few days (no heat in the barn and extremely cold in the winter). So when invited to dinner, he bought his children and his kids! :o

Americans

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:32 pm
by Malk
Some of us can speak and write English comprehensibly, understand English and American grammar, speak more than one language and have choosen to live in the UK, but I have to admit I haven't met another one. :wink:

Sorry

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:42 pm
by Malk
I was applying to the topic on page one and missed the other three pages.

what have i missed

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:08 pm
by The Grock in the Frock
well malk,it looks like its just you and me.

honey meet the kids

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:13 pm
by paul.r
Lakeveiw it looks like you beat me to it. Our kids Pompey, Butser, Guinness and Lulu-bell.Image

spelling

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:15 pm
by paul.r
Sorry Lakeview...

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:19 pm
by pigletwillie
Thanks for that Jenny :D , you wern`t bad either :twisted: Grock will be jealous :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:21 pm
by Jenny Green
Hey! Hold on there! I'm only admitting to undoing my corsets!!

Spelling

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:56 pm
by LakeView
Paul R-I'm guessing it might be BuSTer too. The fingers are too cold to type, perhaps! ... I expected a black goat if the name were Guinness! Great-looking kids!

Butser

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:13 pm
by paul.r
No he was Butser. should have been Butt-ser he was the best escapologist since houdini. simple method what ever you tried to keep him penned in with he just butted it down. sawn off telegraph poles concreted in slowed him down a bit but he destroyed them after about a fortnight butted the post and concrete out of the ground. We also lived near Butser hill which is north of Portsmouth when we had him so there was a double meaning. he was such a handful that in the end a rare breads trust took him and he ended up in a field with about 20 lady goats at the back of Portsdown hill. Funny thing was he never tried to escape from there. rgds paul. p.s. we ran a pub in Emsworth at that time so Guinness wasnt black just a bit boozy.

Kid

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:02 pm
by LakeView
kid: young goat
kid: tease, banter, jest with (Amer.)
take the mickey, take the pi** (slang, Brit.)
kid: young child (slang, Amer.)

So where does Mickey fit in? I won't even ask about pi**...! :!:

Lets really not forget

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:53 pm
by Anonymous
Well Mr PH, one can only assume that the reference you make to the withdrawal of school milk was aimed at the so called "milk snatcher Thatcher". Also, what is between your ears is pure mush. Not a little grey cell anywhere to be seen.

Maggie was only implementing the policies of the obnoxious grocer Heath. I really do hope that the nasty piece of work that took us into the EU , and sold our fishing industry up the swanee, is rotting in purgatory for the next million years, before going to HELL!!

When it comes to voter apathy, what is the point of going to vote, when the unelected load of rubbish in Brussels is what rules us.

We have been disenfranchised by the unelected body in Brussels. At one time you did have some say in British politics. Nowadays, all you get is what is inflicted upon us by Brussels.

Thank you grocer Heath!!

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:29 pm
by Guest
Mrs Angry