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As a change from all the Welsh back slapping. Just to throw a spanner into the works. A great majority of English people think that some Welsh people can be rather rude when in conversation with a mixed company, by reverting to speaking Welsh and excluding the English people from finding out what they are talking about. I would be interested in other peoples views on this.
Regards Brenjon

Oh dear Brenjon

The usual English neurosis How many people have I heard this from?
"I don't like Wales; as soon as you go into a pub/shop they start speaking Welsh."
As if they actually speak English in private

I have noticed that in Europe rather a lot of people tend to speak French, Spanish, German, Italian etc. I've also noticed that a lot of English people can only speak to them in English. Now there's rude

Actually, Brenjon, only 1 in 5 of us speak Welsh at all. As a Welsh-speaking Englishman I have frequently been criticised by Welsh speakers for using Welsh when non-Welsh speakers have been present.

Hope that gets your spanner out of the works

Alan

i was gobsmacked last night when my 9 year old came wandering in , said he'd just fallen off the bed where he'd dozed off reading his usbourne beginners spanish, then asked if i could get him the german and possibly the italian ( do they do a welsh one?) he claims he doesn't need the french cos he's doing that at school. i guess it must be the result of foreign holidays in term time

Richard

What a star Give him my regards and buy him this if he insists:-

http://www.usbornebooksathome.co.uk/cat ... ubcat=LWSH


Cofion gorau

Alan (superannuated languages teacher)

thanks alan, guess ill forward that one to lapland guess i'd better do a sticky search on ebay aswell. got the french one last night 60p plus one pound something for postage

I think its great that we can all be proud of our respective heritage and even enjoy the light hearted side too.

I am truly English (whatever that is) I love the phrase used by the late Tony Hancock all those years ago when he said in his Blood Donor sketch that he was an "Anglo Saxon with a dash of Viking" I have been sorely tempted to use the phrase on the sensus forms

Weed

As I said above, the census form allows you to tick other white and enter what you like - a thought for the next census in 2011 perhaps.

Alan (of English origin, now Welsh by adoption)

hi alan , its down to you im afraid, ive got carried away on ebay, welsh for beginners should be winging its way to me as i type, i still cant beleive i have actually spent £2.83 (inc postage)on a book about learning to speak welsh i only hope the young un finds it interesting

Bore da Richard,

If he succeeds that should make 500,001 of us who speak Welsh

He'll do well on the early stuff like car, bws, siop, lori, fan (=van), mam,.
I hope you'll think your money was well spent when he can say: "Mae nhad yn ddyn clen iawn" (= My dad's a very kind man"

Cofion gorau i'r hogyn bach - Wishes best to the boy small

Alan

Dear Alan, is there a difference between the Welsh language spoken in the North of Wales compared to that spoken in the South.

OH

YES

Alan

Dear Alan, a little, a lot, or completely.

I hope Johnboy sees this, that's now two things i've got right in my life, and in as many weeks.

Dear OH

Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot

I want to go out for a cup of tea.

North: Dw i isio mynd allan i gael panad o de
South: Wi'n moyn mynd mas i gael disgled o de

Submariner will correct me if I'm wrong.

Alan

On a programme i was watching last night, they said the Dolphins in Cardigan Bay, click Welsh to communicate to each other.
I was just wondering if it would be North or south Clicks.
It did make me smile when i heard this.

OH

If they're anything like the people who live round Cardigan Bay, they'll have about 120 different dialects and all claim theirs is the right one and they can't understand the rest

Alan