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What worries me is that if too many people stop drinking even more pubs will go out of business and many lonely people will lose their only place to regularly chat to other folk, play darts and dominoes and generally keep in touch with local society. I think it's called the Law of Unintended Consequences.

My new years resolution is to keep struggling over to the Rugby Club bar on Sat & Sun lunchtime. Regardless of the weather.

Is there any drink which you can safely take which doesn't trigger a trip to the bathroom around 3 am ?
What we need is a "reduced liquid content" beverage

Primrose: Try Gin & Radweld.

I'm tea total (well, coffee total ) so alcohol is the one diet issue I don't have any issues with... That's why I studied nutrition, and why I nearly failed my dissertation when I refused to say food addiction is a myth 0eople use as an excuse to be over weight

Hi Richard,
I would be more than interested to know as to why you think the word moderation is a slippery word.
JB.

The term "To moderate"or the word moderation suggests there are a set of brackets we can work to, if you are on the wrong side of one of those brackets then it's still moderate. Depending on your view and the subject.

Moderate can mean different things to different people.

Hi Richard,
The word moderate means avoiding extremes and moderation means putting the avoidance of these extremes into practice.
If one finds oneself being excessive in a particular habit then it is up to the individual to set his or her parameter (or brackets in your words) and curb your excesses to live within the tolerance you have set for yourself. In plain words self discipline.
I do not find the word moderation to be the slightest "slippery." I am a person who firmly believes in moderation as do the vast majority of the population. Without moderation this world would be ungovernorable!
JB.

I don't disagree with that JB, not at all. Sometimes putting thought into text isn't as easy as reading from a dictionary. Some peoples moderate is likely to be some peoples extreme and some extremes are moderate depending on an individuals view and that is why it's a slippy word that is bandied about and perhaps misused.

If I ask you to moderate your language it's my view that you are being extreme though the parameters. or brackets, change with changing circumstances.

Just trotting back, here's a thought. Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in the hospital, dying of nothing.

Moderation becomes, as Richard calls it slippery, when it is associated with addiction or other extremism.

If you have a tendency to addiction (something I am convinced is genetic) to say alcohol, moderation is rarely an option, any is the slippery slope towards excess however powerful you think your self discipline is.

Same applies to non-food behaviour too, if you are an obsessive stamp collector you can't just go and purchase one more set.

Moderation is liking a drink, addiction is needing it.

Oh dear, says the Moderator, am I past the slippery slop and heading for the precipice?