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Me too, Mouse, lol. Hoping for a nice indian summer to ripen a good crop of outdoor grapes, we are eating those fed into the greenhouse, a really heavy crop!

Dear Nature's Babe, the Indian Summer will commence from tomorrow.

And i now have visions of yourself and your Mum laying on Chaise-lounges eating bunches of grapes.

oldherbaceous wrote: the Indian Summer will commence from tomorrow

Watch out for the cold nights - a lot of talk of rural ground frost, especially Tuesday night in Bedfordshire

Why thank you kind Sir.

OH, plenty of delish grapes, but no chaise longue, Mum would eat all her meals in bed given half a chance !

alan refail wrote:

oldherbaceous wrote: the Indian Summer will commence from tomorrow

Watch out for the cold nights - a lot of talk of rural ground frost, especially Tuesday night in Bedfordshire

Bore da OH

Cloudless sky here this morning, sun well up. Looks as though you were correct

Temperature at dawn 4C, heavy dew just the liquid side of ground frost. Looks as though I was right too

Bore da Alan, you were right too, made my fingers tingle picking veg at first light.

Off to work in a while, so will look for a shady spot.

Hi Alan,
At 5am this morning the temperature here was 4.6C and b----y windy.
Chilled me to the bone in a couple of seconds.
JB.

Dear Alan, don't know if you will know but, do you know if Bryn Fuches means anything? It is a farm name by the way!

oldherbaceous wrote:Dear Alan, don't know if you will know but, do you know if Bryn Fuches means anything? It is a farm name by the way!

P'nawn da OH

Dim problem!

Bryn is hill

Buches is a milking herd or a milking shed

Bryn (y) fuches is Milk cows hill.

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Dear Alan, thank you so,so much for that, you really are a star.

Thanks OH

All place names means something; it's just that sometimes we can't figure out what

Actually almost all Welsh place names/farm names are self explanatory (if you understand Welsh).

The "dim problem" reminded me, Alan: when we were in Wales on holiday many moons ago, we used to try and read the Welsh road signs and worked out that "dim parcio' meant "no parking". Ever after that when somebody got their knickers in a twist in the family, the children, then in their teens, used to shout "Dim fretio", their version of "Don't fret!". I just hope it doesn't mean something rude in real Welsh!

It's going to be a good day for gardening.

Morning Monika

No, you're in the clear; ffretio is a perfectly respectable borrowing from English - though "don't fret" would be "paid â ffretio" or more likely "paid â phoeni" (N. Wales) or "paid becso" (S Wales).

A few interesting Welsh-English "false friends":

bad = boat
bore = morning
brain = crows
drain = thorns
hen = old
moron = carrots
plant = children
tin = backside

And a more modern one: the txtspk "lol" means "nonsense" in Welsh