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Monika wrote:Richard, if you hang the box up now within sight of where it was on the table, the bluetits are likely to continue building their nest as if nothing has happened.

It's a difficult one because the bird house and table are on the south facing end of the barn though the hole in the bird house is facing north which may have attracted the bluetitts.

About five metres away I have a fence supporting clematis, I'll move the table a little at a time towards the fence then mount the bird house on the fence.

Up the lane at the vestry (we have our own chapel, chapel house, vestry and graveyard) there is a Royal Mail post box set into the stone wall of a bank, bluetitts nest in there every year regardless of the postman opening it daily. Eventually the post box has a notice on it saying OUT OF USE.
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Monika wrote:Richard, if you hang the box up now within sight of where it was on the table, the bluetits are likely to continue building their nest as if nothing has happened.



I have always been under the impression that bird nests are protected and it is illegal to move them. I assume that is just as applicable to blue tits

RSPB site seems to confirm that, as does this 'Ask the Police' site
https://www.askthe.police.uk/Content/Q700.htm

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A good weekends progress.
    1. Friday finished the edging (Cable Tray) from the rusty post to the white tube, did the corresponding bit of the nearest row of potatoes, then two more rows.
    2. Saturday up the path set in a concrete corner post - then rugby 32-7 to my club. :)
    3. Sunday did five rows of potatoes and up the path did the next corner (1st visible concrete post) together with the concrete gravel board.
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Next job is complicated by what needs to be done in order to be able to do the job. :roll:
To do my onion sets,
    I need to move the weed membrane on the left onto the rotovated soil on the right.
    To do that I need to get a load of manure and spread it out.
    For that to happen I have to finish digging the corner where I did the posts,
    To do that the (planned 12'x6') compost bin needs the bit facing down the plot finishing, so two more posts and gravel boards to set going left across the plot.
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I have always been under the impression that bird nests are protected and it is illegal to move them. I assume that is just as applicable to blue tits


Does that include moving whilst under construction and moving for the the future benefit. RSPB are likely to understand that if we spend £300 a year on wild bird food and building nesting boxes together with habitats for nesting we are likely to be acting with the very best intentions.

Peter, thanks for the photo. An impressive sight, all those spuds and so neat and tidy. How is your back ?
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Ricard with an H wrote:
I have always been under the impression that bird nests are protected and it is illegal to move them. I assume that is just as applicable to blue tits


Does that include moving whilst under construction and moving for the the future benefit. RSPB are likely to understand that if we spend £300 a year on wild bird food and building nesting boxes together with habitats for nesting we are likely to be acting with the very best intentions.
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Don't shoot the messenger, I don't make the laws.
I think (only think) that it does include nests under construction.

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If they are only building and the distance isn't great I'd just move it, I'm sure they will cope. Reminds me there is a box in the garage that blew down in the Winter that I haven't put back. My Tree Sparrows are moving into the terrace that I put up last year but they ignored. It would be good to get bird food down to £300!
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Good job jobbed there Peter. Nice rows.

I put two 15ft rows in on Saturday (16 x Jazzy each row) and have not ridged them up yet. Not planning on ridging until they are starting to show through unless we have late frosts.

May cover them with fleece.

Peter, what row spacing did you use ?
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Geoff wrote: It would be good to get bird food down to £300!


Wouldn't it just

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I planted mine last week six rows three different varieties around eighty sets in all I've also got five single set bags and five double set drums in the pollytunnel some are starting to show through , I can't wait for my new spuds and bacon
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Pa Snip wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, I don't make the laws.
I think (only think) that it does include nests under construction.


Sorry Pa, I didn't mean it to sound like that.
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Ricard with an H wrote:......
Peter, thanks for the photo. An impressive sight, all those spuds and so neat and tidy. How is your back ?


Pa Snip wrote:Good job jobbed there Peter. Nice rows.

I put two 15ft rows in on Saturday (16 x Jazzy each row) and have not ridged them up yet. Not planning on ridging until they are starting to show through unless we have late frosts.

May cover them with fleece.

Peter, what row spacing did you use ?


It is fine Richard, no heavy lifting apart from the concrete posts.

Pa Snip, I look at commercial practice and don't worry too much about chitting (machinery knocks the sprouts off and volunteers don't get that molly-coddling) and I earth up at planting so I know where they are. it also protects them from frost and reduces the amount of Peterprints left on the soil. (Similar rationale with machinery)

Nearly four feet between centres, which leaves room for my Merry Tiller to be run down between the ridges without biting them.

Technique.
Lay out the rows starting from the main path by inserting canes along the side paths at measured distances.
Set up the string on the first set of canes as a guide for all subsequent dibbing and drawing.

Start from the path and dib the seed potatoes in using a trowel, earth up with a hoe drawing towards the path, then place scaffold boards on the area soil was drawn up from.
Walking on the boards draw up the side nearest the path.
Go down the side the boards were removed from with a Wolf three prong cultivating hoe to leave a tilth.
Take a break.
Move the string to the next set of canes.
Using a 5'x2' piece of plywood and a smaller piece to lie on, on top of the boards do the dibbing in, shuffling /swapping the board from under my legs to in front of me as I move along.
Then repeat the drawing up process.
Repeat until out of seed potatoes and take extra care on spacing for the last row. ;)

The earthing up is done in four passes per side with a six inch Dutch or Draw Hoe, I use it first at an angle so a corner goes in, then again flat, pass one gets a low ridge, pass two a cleaner flat cut of the same bite and pass three takes a wider bite, with pass four tidying it up.

It takes me around forty minutes per row, oh yes and it was all throughly rotivated prior to even considering planting as that makes the drawing up WAY easier even despite last weeks rain. :D
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4ft !!! I thought it looked wide.

I usually put earlies in at 2ft and mains at 3ft.
4ft would be pure luxury and must certainly make earthing up easier.

I agree about the rotavating, I do so literally just prior to starting the first planting session

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peter. What do you do in your spare time.
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Shallot Man wrote:peter. What do you do in your spare time.

Not a lot. :D
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AND THE BAD NEWS IS ...........................................

Small clouds of whitefly already emanating from the overwintered brassicas
PLUS
Hoards of slugs under the base leaves of said brassicas.


and the season is only just getting under way

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