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I would have missed that.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:13 pm
by Gerry
Yesterday I was ordering seeds from www.premierseedsdirect.com, a site reccomended on here a while ago.

I had noted that the site was secure (http & the padlock) while I was composing the order. But as I was about to enter my card details a warning from Firefox flashed up saying that the site wasn't secure.

Sure enough the padlock had a red stripe through it and http had disappeared.

Needless to say, I didn't go any further. However I did email them about this but as yet have not received a reply.

Today though all the site appears to be insecure.

Have any of you used Premier Seeds and come across this, or is it something I'm doing wrong?

Regards,
Gerry.

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:43 pm
by peter
Browsers and operating systems are getting more nannying on http and https nowadays.

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:21 pm
by Gerry
Thanks for the reply Peter.

So should I "KEEP CALM AND CARRY 0N"?

Regards,
Gerry.

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:55 pm
by Geoff
Why not use their eBay site and pay securely with PayPal? Assuming it works over there that is!

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:21 pm
by robo
I found PayPal to be anything but secure my daughter and husband had money taken out of their bank account due to PayPal I stopped my account when I found them paying for something I did not know about can't you pay by telephone

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:07 pm
by Westi
PayPal is not secure at all! I've been hacked through them twice now & shut down account & even though shut down still get e-mails through from whoever has got into their account to tell me their has been 'unusual activity' on my account & the usual contact us etc. Forward them all to PayPal with no response from them either!

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:34 pm
by Tony Hague
I think you'll find those e-mails are phishing attempts. Everyone gets them don't they ? Never click on any link in an e-mail to get to a financial institution's website.

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:34 pm
by peter
This is getting too much like my work. :roll:

Right.
Use the National Cyber Security Centre for advice .
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/glossary

For less "professional" stuff Take Five is excellent and doesn't limit itself to computer frauds.
https://takefive-stopfraud.org.uk

At the most basic if n email is unexpected or unusual be suspicious, don't use phone numbers or links in it.
Google the organisation for its Web Site, go the the Contact us page use what's on that.

Anything form a friend saying they need money now cos they've had an accident abroad or a business opportunity, ring them on the number you normally use. Hover your mouse pointer over the name hiding the email address, that reveals the actual email address.

Above all just because someone has forged an email so it looks like it came from your friend does NOT mean anyone's account has been hacked.
Nerds don't try bashing or guessing their way into your email or Facebook.
The criminals use known software faults or phishingemails to get into Web based businesses website and data. Their objective it to steal the identity data and sell it on. Many sites get you to use your email as your I'd, straight away that has value, it's is a genuine email address cos you want the confirmation of your order. You probably used the same password as your email on the website, boom double value, someone buys it and takes over your account.

Look at https://haveibeenpwned.com put your email address in and it will tell you how many data heists had your email and password in them and when they occurred and whose system the data came from.
If your email has been nicked, have you changed your password since it was nicked?

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:20 am
by Gerry
I have now had a reply from Premier Seeds as follows...

"Please note we only use Paypal and Worldpay to process payments. For both sites all the details at the point of entry are held off our server and are fully secure for both payment gateways at 2 of the largest global payment providers".

That's all they say. I previously cancelled my Paypal account for the same reasons as Westi and Robo. I may well ring them.

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:51 am
by Colin2016
Thanks for the links Peter I checked 5 email address with 3 clear.

Regards paypal I believe if the email does not use your first & surname then it is spam.

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:47 am
by robo
Thanks Peter, seems I've had four hits on my email I new I had a problem as I had to reregister my password and had to Waite for a month to use my account

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:24 pm
by Westi
I always do the hoover thing over the address now for all unknown e-mails or sites, which is why I forward everything to Paypal - but also found a lot of other rubbish in my mailbox that I knew were not real as not any of my interests but found my address never the less.

I tried your sites Peter - 'I've be pawned on 3 breeched sites but no pastes' ??? What does that mean? Yep I am the one the IT guys at work draw straws for, but they are always nice & understand my idea of a 'thingey' , well eventually! :)

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:48 pm
by peter
Westi, if you've changed your password since the days of the heist you should be OK.
I think no pastes may mean the extracted data hasn't been found anywhere.

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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:18 pm
by Tony Hague
If you've changed your password. Makes it sound rather easy. But with so many sites insisting you create an account, and without any clue as to which site your email address and password might have been stolen from, that's the best part of a day's work !

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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:01 pm
by robo
You can buy premier seeds direct from amazon at least you know you are paying direct for them and not paying a scammer